Prometheus Forum - Alien Series

Can bacterial drums of shit turn into eggs? Some thoughts.

meshuggah — Mon, 25 Mar 2013 08:58:30 -0400

Hi all, the following is a hypothesis on the Alien link in Prometheus that connects with the Derelict on LV-426.

Consider the possibility of the urns or ampoules turning into the eggs we know and love. Now this is something that others have speculated about on here in the past and on other forums but I felt I should try and articulate it a little more thoroughly.

Now the urns oozed that black goo in Prometheus as a result of a chemical change in the air presumably upon opening the door. Perhaps overtime, the four chambers inside (that bear a texture remarkably similar to the eggs) dissolve into the more practical form of the eggs with growing facehuggers inside and the ooze builds up around the ampoule and transmutes it as biological incubation material. This could also explain LV-426. The pilot left LV-223 and unbeknownst to him the urns were becoming unstable and he became a victim to one of them due to improper handling and force-landed himself on LV-426. Indeed, perhaps the temperature was askew and the ampoules became unstable and evolved into the eggs?

In a sense this is a rather simple explanation but I like the simplicity and it fits perfectly with what Scott has stated about the Jockey’s cargo becoming ‘out of control’ and evolving - http://screenrant.com/interview-ridley-scott-prometheus-rothc-177916/

I surmise that these engineers’ go to some pains with regard to temperature control for these ampoules...remember what Kane says in Alien, “Blimey it’s like the tropics in here.” Quite simply, when the black goop leaks onto biological organisms you get strands of the xenomorph’s DNA expressing themselves recognisably in those mutated organisms; from acid blood, distending jaws and other intermediate attributes. It all hints at the nature of this black mutagen and its seemingly programmed determination to fashion the perfect organism. I still like the idea of the Hammerpede laying the eggs (since they mutated from worms and worms are egg layers) and being the species responsible for passing on the asexuality inherent in the xenomorph species and the egg laying but the idea of the ampoules becoming unstable and transmuting into the eggs we’re familiar with is perhaps what Ridley is getting at, given how the eggs are laid out in the cargo chamber of the derelict and the resemblance of how the urns/ampoules are laid out. I found this interesting because it reminded me of the rough draft of the first Alien screenplay (as well as the novelization/book) in which the eggs are referred to as urns, vases or containers. Although you may protest and say that the goop only reacts to biology and the urns wouldn’t transform into eggs because the urns are metallic (and boy aren't you fun, what about... biomechanical magic? It's alien technology anything goes!), well, think of it this way - The metal "urns" are fashioned to keep the experiment under control and provided the right incubating conditions they will remain under control. The black ooze is their version of a wonderful stem-cell goop; it can do all kinds of neat things to nudge along the process of evolution within an organism such as breaking down DNA and rebuilding it in one swipe, making improvements along the way, etc, etc.

The question then becomes; why wouldn’t the urns become unstable when the temperature turns? Why wouldn’t the metal corrode at the behest of a biogenic reaction? You see the temperature was raised in the chamber in Prometheus when the crew walk in and it sets off a reaction but it stabilized; what if the temperature kept rising? Say to tropical levels? What's interesting is that as soon as the mural changes due to the result of the temperature rising, what do we see? An egg grasped by two xeno hands. I think you my dear reader understand where I’m getting at.

Bacteria can dissolve steel (http://phys.org/news/2012-11-bacteria-survive-acidic-metal-rich.html ) and this black goop stuff isn’t ordinary bacteria, indeed, if you look at Acidithiobacillus; a genus of Proteobacteria, this bacteria lives in pyrite deposits and metabolizes iron, sulphur and produces sulphuric acid. This bacteria is capable of Biogenic sulphide corrosion; a bacterially mediated process that attacks stuff like steel and given that this black microbial goop in Prometheus is wholly science fictional, we can lend credence to the hypothesis that given a high level of humidity these urns undergo a rapid biogenic metamorphosis and become the eggs we all know and love. Also another thing, notice how there was a blatant lack of BIO-mechanics in the Giger-esque architecture in Prometheus? Perhaps the black goop is what metamorphoses mechanical objects into sexualised biomechanics and is in fact a basis for a lot of the Engineers’ technology and architecture.

Now of course my hypothesis seems to negate Cameron's Queen lifecycle but when you think of the classic parasitic facehugger that results from the process I've proposed above and the fact that it deposits an embryo that takes on the genetic traits of the host in a science fiction take on epigenetics, all that is needed is a female host to provide the reproductive traits for a Queen or if you follow the life-cycle of ants, some form of royal jelly secreted by the xenos, yadda, yadda, I prefer the former.

So where does all this leave the Deacon you ask? Simple, I surmise that the Deacon is the result the Engineers were originally aiming for; the perfect hybrid and the classic xeno is its ultra-evolved, out of control sibling the Engineers warned about in the mural following the LV-426 incident.

Anyway, thanks for reading my wankery dear reader. Wank away.

NECA 2012/13 - New Aliens, Marines and PROMETHEUS figures

Sticky_Fingaz — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 20:50:36 -0400

NECA have announced they will be releasing all new Aliens figures. Included will be 9inch(wonder) Alien Warriors in both normal and battle damaged varieties, with both Brown and Blue colour schemes. They will also be release a 7inch Corporal Hicks figure in addition to 2 undisclosed marines.

Everyone's favourite Alien, Big Chap, will be release in a hyper-detailed 22inch collectable, with new detailed packaging.

NECA said the Alien Queen is on the wishlist, with it likely to be developed in 2013 due to prior commitments with PROMETHEUS. So expect Space Jockey's, and whatever other nasty freaks from the film to be developed. First sculpts are expected to be shown around June. No release date has been given yet.

Read the full article here.

Best looking Alien(s) effects wise

Carrot — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:28:44 -0400

The first Alien looked great with the translucent head
in Aliens, their heads looks more like the drawings. The queen was wonderful, but it did seem so move a bit stiff/awkwardly when fighting Ripley.
Alien 3 looked fine except for a few scenes. It's really noticeable though
Alien 4 they looked great almost completely black
Prometheus used the Japanese puppety for Deacon, with some cgi on the mouth roar. This i found very creapy first time watching because its body is not like the others. It is literally impossible to be a suit, so that was interesting.

I think I would rate it

Alien - Prometheus
Alien 4
Aliens
Alien 3

Predict the name of the next new Alien or Prometheus robot

MotherFather — Fri, 10 May 2013 13:15:35 -0400

If we ever get introduced to a new robot, either in future Prometheus, Alien, or AVP films, the letter E beckons. But what could be its name? An Ed or an Eli if male, an Emma or ironically Ellen, if female? What do you think?

an Alien Prequel could have taken place on Earth, in the 21st century!

Custodian — Fri, 17 May 2013 11:42:30 -0400

buoyed up by my liberation from Prometheus (it being just an Alien 1979 re-imagining for re-franchise purposes) in the thread 'what if Cronenberg had made Aliens', here's where I think a speculative outline could have taken the GigerWorld that was never used for a franchise that became worse each time it was filmed.

Giger's dreams (nightmares) fuelled his artwork.

Now, I don't wanna have a painter in the film who opens up a 'parallel dimension' to Gigerworld.

No, I want Organised Satanists and Institutionalised Child Stealers and Ludicrous Blood Ritualists to do that job. It takes place now, in our 21st century society of Homage To The Rich, in places like The Shard and Trade Tower One and it's about a parallel world being accessible at the point of these insane and corporatised rituals. Think EYES WIDE SHUT-ish. Think I-ching stargates opening in groups of three three three...

So, the portal opens up and we get a glimpse of Gigerworld, all constructed from living UGM or Universal Giger Matter ... and it has a plethora of 'demons' and 'shapeshifters' and 'space jockeys' and such, meddlers with the laws of physics. Humans and Gigerbeasts interact, forming and reforming like oil on water. Gigerworld is exactly the same size as our world and has exactly the same number of xenos of all flavour, seven billion.

There must be something about Earth that only allows one-directional flow of energy between the two worlds, from ours to theirs. I don't know, tie it in with the activity of the sun if you want, maybe it's just a question of balance, call the film Tipping Point if you want.

Well, our plucky narrator who could be played by Logan Marshall Green 'crosses over' into Gigerworld where we see that hooded Accolytes who have offered themselves up for incorporation in Gigerworld are up to all sorts of no good, kinda Dante's hell-ish, and they're all ending up egg-mogrified. That same someone learns of the Xeno-invasion, maybe from a strong female type played by Noomi Rapace who pursues him sexually, and he concocts a plan of sacrifice by wading into the Gigery maelstrom himself and blending with Gigerworld where he traces the hyperspacer, our Space Jockey, who's been tasked with delivering the eggs to Earth. He stops the Big Invasion of Earth and causes the Alien juggernaut to manifest on LV-426, landing softly in the duststorm. How many eggs were in the original juggernaut? And could there have been a flotilla explosion in Deep Space when the rest of them were killed? Gah, I dunno...

Cut back to Space Jockey's chest starting to creak open as our friend LMG emerges ... and then staggers out into a silica storm where he is torn to (literally) bits.

THE END.

if David Cronenberg had made Aliens...

Custodian — Mon, 13 May 2013 05:07:48 -0400

Had Giger's people put the artist together with the Canadian director of
such body horror classics as The Fly, Dead Ringers, Videodrome, Existenz,
Eastern Promises and Naked Lunch, we might have got something that was more
related to the Giger paintings' ethos of biogeometry derived from visceral
sexual union.

I'm thinking of the effect Cronenberg has had on popular culture: imagine a
pre-videodrome world where no guns take on Giger-tube piercing format and
possess the owner, imagine a world without the monotonous grey clay torture room
of internet porn as depicted in the film, imagine video tapes not being stuffed
into labial openings in cigarette burned torsos.

It's like Arthur C Clarke's geo-stationary satellite tech - ne had to think
of it before some techs could make it.

And it might have been the SAVING GRACE of the Alien Franchise (you know,
were it not left to James Cameron (who I respect as an action film-maker)
totally ruining the xenomorph concept with the addition of an (unnecessary)
Alien Queen to the mix (gosh, I love my nested parentheses (and I can count)))
had someone like Cronenberg taken up the reigns of the wild Alien pony.

Imagine (after making Videodrome in 1983) Cronenberg had been offered part
two or part minus one of the Alien franchise ... a chance to explore where the
derelict and the space jockey came from and why no Queen was needed and what (if
any) connection to the human race such a race of truckers/doctors might have.
He'd have definitely set it in Toronto, or Vancouver, that day. He'd have
unwound what we consider to be Society with one fell swoop - and hopefully he'd
have had help with his scriptwriting (Dead Zone is the best film he's done,
because he didn't write the script).

We might have had an intelligent ADULT 'xenomorph' series instead of a
childish videogame series. Eh?

Bishop II - Android or Human?

BobSagat — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 00:07:21 -0500

The age-old question: Is Bishop II (of Alien 3) an android or human?

Simple android or human would do. Lengthy explanations are fine too.

Alien 5 or AVP 3?

MeNotMindingItHurts — Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:13:13 -0400

If someone had a gun to your head and said, "You have to choose which one of these films gets made or your brains will imminently meet your environment." which would you pick and why?

Alien 5 or AVP 3?

Forget Prometheus - REBOOT THAT ALIEN PREQUEL - back to basics

Custodian — Mon, 29 Apr 2013 02:18:10 -0400

Forget Prometheus - REBOOT THAT ALIEN PREQUEL - back to basics

so, for the longest time during the long and expensive publicity phase of Prometheus (2012) we were led to believe that Ridley Scott was making a prequel to his 1979 film Alien. Then it turned out that Damon Lindelof was brought on board to perform a 'thematic polishing' of Jon Spaihts original Alien-prequel script and Prometheus became a 'parallel story' within the 'alien universe'.

And we all know what that means.

They attempted to make all the Gigery-stuff look like it did in the 1979 original but it really wasn't. It was sanitised, de-edged and de-sexualised, like the whole Prometheus franchise/TV-series will become; nothing more than a once-Alien-fan's Stargate. I promise you.

ALIEN (1979) the moment when it all went soooooooo wrong

During the set design phase for ALIEN, Ridley Scott had the effects crew bosh together a Giger creation in balsa wood and plaster. Allegedly, Giger didn't even get to add the finishing artistic touches to his gigantically enormous cinematic centrepiece before Scott had made some child-sized space suits and had children occupy the set, for the purposes of scale.

AND IT WORKED.

Visually, it worked. It was an iconic moment in cinema history. When mankind first met a gigantic intergalactic race of Giger's 'biomechanical humanoids'. And if the thing hadn't have been 'fossilised' i.e. from a hundred thousands years ago, it would have been a very sexual experience for the orifice-carriers of the Sulako crew. We can evenguesstimate the size of ALIEN's Space Jockey (the above hyperspace telescope driver) by saying that man's about as tall as that thing's torso. A human torso is 1/4 of the height of a human body. So, if a human is six foot, multiply by four gives us a TWENTY FOUR FOOT space jockey, that's SEVEN METERS tall were he to get up, or de-embed himself from, his big penis-chair. I'm not even convinced he could. He may not even have/need LEGS. I suspect he was BORN into are at least BLENDED WITH that chair (like a hermit crab) as part of his life-cycle. He and it are ONE, a 'perfect orgasm'.

When I say, "it worked," of course, it failed very badly.

The crew of the Sulako descended through an acid-hole in the floor of that space jockey set to an Egg Silo cargo hold and the concept was never seen again in the Alien franchise. Other things that were never seen again (and this was mostly due to an unfortunate cutting room floor incident) included a scene where the human-chest-hatched Xenomorph transformed one of the Sulako crew into an Egg and this image on a mural in a pyramid temple that was never seen (due to budgetary limitations).

ALIEN (1979) xenomorph life cycle

For those who don't know, the Eggs in ALIEN contain Facehuggers that leap onto the face of a humanoid and infect him with a chestburster that then escapes as a growing xenomorph. No Alien Queen. No Prometheus Engineers. So, what's the basic story here that we're all missing, including the makers of Prometheus?

Isn't it obvious?

Potentially millions of years before Modern Man exists on planet Earth, the original space jockey was transporting such HUMANOID cargo, and the first thought that comes to mind is Noah's Ark. Maybe there was a total routing on an Earthlike planet (scenes of xenomorph horror as if in Modern Cities). I'm not even sure if, in this pre-Alien narrative, one or more of the humanoids should have made it to Earth (by some clever hyperspace-breaking trick that actually caused the crash on LV-426 in the first place) and got it on in the Garden of Eden i.e. a primitive Earth. I'm not sure if that remaining Modern Human-looking creature would then try to MATE with the indigenous life forms, until he found a DNA match among the apes.

is this how Modern Man used to 'trade'?

I'm not sure if we should reveal that the 'Adam' humanoid is kinda like the gene-swapping Engineers or just have them 'create monsters' naturally - delivering his 'first born' out of a crawling spiderlike carapace of total horror that then EATS HIM before crumbling to black dust leaving no traces of alien infestation on planet Earth. We could have flashback upon flashback to show how these 'humanoids' lead Giger-painting-like lifestyles on their home planet(s) and a trade in their biogenetic offspring is the MONETARY UNIT in that part of the Seeded Galaxy.

For me, at the very least, it should have taken more than a few weeks of stalking adventure on LV-426 for the xenomorph to TRAP AND CONVERT ALL THE HUMAN CARGO INTO EGGS and activate the ship's laser-mist proximity system that alert's the eggs to Ash's presence.

"I want more life, fucker."

That sentence, above, was how Roy Batty (the lead Replicant in Scott's Blade Runner (1985) put it at the end of his four-year lifespan) and Prometheus 'delivered the same line' having Weyland confront his 'maker' in a similar (though more polite) fashion, "Ask him, David." And Prometheus failed because it had the whole "you like to do business with your own kind" rhetoric for why an android who doesn't breathe should/shouldn't wear his space suit helmet. Prometheus's Engineers i.e. the shrunken xeno-suit-wearing excuse for Alien's space trucker, HAD to be human even though their human-empathic contribution to the narrative was purely decorative. Hollywood thinks 'adults can't cope with' concepts of mixed alien race narratives, even though there are ANY NUMBER of such films for kiddies.

REBOOT THE ALIEN PREQUEL - there is a real human character-survival-horror piece hiding under the Giger-cloth of this never-written never-filmed story. Make that mini-series, Giger Universe.

London Film Museum's Alien artifacts

Neelis — Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:37:26 -0400

Just back from a trip to London, where I visited the London Film Museum. Don't get too excited, it's heavily overpriced for what it displays (a couple of suits, some masks and models from horror films, Star Wars items and a lot of pictures and text on London's/ Britain's film studios), but they do have some Alien and Aliens artifacts - though I do not know if they are real or made for the museum specifically.

The one that seemed not screen used was the Alien Queen: life sized she's the eye catcher in the room (though she is displayed next to the Tardis and two Daleks from Doctor Who); the eggs around her seem to have been created for the museum, being solid.

The two more curious objects were 1) an Alien suit from the first film, which seemed like it could have been screen used and 2) two Facehuggers in a glass case, one attached to a dummy's head, the other in the bottom.

Could these possibly have been screen used? Does anyone know more about these?

Another interesting find (and this seemed screen used) was a space suit from the film Sunshine by Danny Boyle. Nice to see it up close (and I touched it, could not help myself), as it is one of my favorite science fiction films.

Below a link to the website of the museum itself, and to my Instagram page to which I've uploaded the pictures. My apologies for the rather bad quality of the images, the room was very dark, making it hard to get good shots.

http://www.londonfilmmuseum.com/south-bank/

http://instagram.com/neelis1983/

Classic Alien toy figures re-released by Super7Store

Vodi — Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:23:58 -0400

"In 1979, prototypes for 3 ¾” action figures for the ALIEN film were developed but never manufactured. Through our network of industry and collector contacts, Super7 has unearthed reference material and original 34-year-old prototypes and will now make these “lost toys” a reality."

http://super7store.com/alien-reaction-figures.html?SID=95464aede9434afb41900ba194e60478

Down with a complete Alien REBOOT?

StarkMKLV426 — Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:29:21 -0400

How many people her would be down with a FULL ALIEN re-boot?
I know Ripley made alien, the sense of wonder will not be present, BUT I think many of us can agree Alien 3 ruined the entire series.. followed by Resurrection. we obviously cannot go forward based on the ridiculous events of the last two ALIEN films (not including the horrid AVP movies)

so my idea is as follows, Start over pretty much Alien and Aliens can be identical to the original but with an obvious contemporary feel somewhat more updated. then they can take it to a actual great 3rd film new cast new actors.. (think christopher nolan's batman..) they can even add some new surprises to the originals.. what are your thoughts?

Going back to basics - Xeno is NOT the goal of 'that particular incarnation'.

Custodian — Mon, 08 Apr 2013 03:53:47 -0400

XENOS BE THE FRUITING BODIES.
what does this mean in our Queenless xeno context?

Well, we all know the original Alien 'xeno' was based on the life cycle of a parasitic wasp that lays her egg in a living host and then that baby feeds on then hatches from the living host, killing it.

But for this context it might be better to see the Xenos (the moving around egg-mogrifiying aliens) as merely the 'fruiting bodies' of a larger organism or fungus.

A fungus is a MASSIVE PLANT that stretches for miles and (when the conditions are right) starts to produce 'fruiting bodies' i.e. mushrooms etc., that can spore new plants.

Egg-mogrifying living worlds of humanoids has to be the means by which the xenos spore a world. When they're done, and there's no more lifeforms to egg-mogrify the planet lies dormant, like a fungal plant, until some 'opportunistic' space traveller race lands and disturbs the egg-dotted landscape.

I think it's like a game of chess, with the xenos placing their pieces across the galaxy, seeding their own selves i.e. eggs, across dormant landscapes the way spiders build webs - but the 'spider' would be like 'built into' the web, so there's nothing there once the web or fungus is in situ. No xenos remain on a lifeformsless planet.

What is the longevity of an individual xeno?

What year is the film alien set?

nineinchwonder — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 07:43:55 -0500

In the film aliens Ripley goes into hyper sleep for 57 years.
In the scene where ripley is informed her daughter is dead, the date on the picture reads 2174 (her daughter died 2 years earlier) meaning the film is set in 2176. So the film Alien is set in the year 2119 since that is 57 years earlier.

am i right or am i right? lol

Queen takes Bishop

Carrot — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 01:27:47 -0500

The Alien 3 that never was!

John_Stark — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 10:04:09 -0500

Just recently saw this teaser, it was awesome. What happened?

Why did they change their minds from earth to fiorina 161?

Am I the Only Person Who Really Likes AVP?

MorganScorpion — Wed, 13 Jun 2012 07:35:17 -0400

Because it seems that absolutely no-one else here does.

I liked the characters, I was blown away by the sets, and adored the alien/Predator effects, especially when a host of aliens storm the pyramids in flashback.

I hated AVP2 though. That truly was an abomination.

ALIEN 5 (SEQUEL TO ALIEN 4) WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN IN ALIEN 5. POST UR OWN SYNOPSIS

nineinchwonder — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 11:07:59 -0500

ALIEN 5 = ALIEN EXTINCTION

In the 25^th Century, Fifteen years after Ripley and the
survivors escaped the events of USM Auriga, the terror is far from
over. Deep in space a large massive star vessel 'ARC 2' (named after
Noah's Arc) is transporting 8,000 civilian men and women, 21 crew
members and is also carrying both male and female dogs, Cats, Cattle,
sheep, horses, Chickens, Rhino's, Elephants, Tigers, Lions and other
species. The ARC 2 at first seems calm as it enters a large tropical
Earth like planet but as it enters its atmosphere it is now apparent
that it is out of control. Inside the cock pit unseen voices can be
heard screaming and unearthly screeches can also be heard. Blood can
be seen on the control panel and acid is seen melting through one of
the computers. The ARC 2 then crash lands in the Ocean not far from
the shore. Half of the ship is submerged.

Orbiting the polluted and scarred desert Earth is a massive space
station owned by the Tyrell corporation. Inside the director is
informed by his staff that two weeks ago an S.O.S sent from the ARC 2
reached the outer space transmission probe Hubble 2 and it's S.O.S
message had the ARC 2 captain requesting help and immediate
evacuation as the ship is under attack from within by monsters who
bleed acid.

The director is informed that there is only enough fuel left on our
star system to send out one more vessel and the Director decides to
send a colonial Marine rescue battalion and is reluctantly persuaded
to recruit the expert help from Prisoner 423, currently held in the
Underground prison of Mercury.

Prisoner 423 is sent to the space station and it is revealed it is
Ellen Ripley whom is ageing rapidly due to a fault in her cloned
genes. She accepts the mission of travelling with the Marines led by
Colonel Hayward. The director reveals that our sun is about to be
destroyed from within by a massive black hole caused by Man's
technology which has stripped the sun from it's critical ingredients
and the ARC 2 had the sole mission of transporting 8,000 hand picked
humans and many of Earth's important species to a new earth like
planet discovered 20 light years away with the sole mission of
starting afresh in a bid to save the human race. It is because of
this reason Ripley decides to go. Sometime later as Ripley and the
marines exit our star system Ripley and the marines watch as our sun
collapses and causes a super nova.

In the new star system just orbiting the planet is the colonial
marines vessel. Ripley, colonel Hayward, Sergeant Jones and the other
thirty five marines awake from hyper sleep. The vessel then enters
the tropical planets atmosphere and the marines sail through the
water toward the half sunken ARC 2. After entering from the top they
make their way through the ship. They discover that out of the 8,000
civilian cargo, only 400 men and women are still alive and remain in
hyper sleep.

They then enter the hull and find themselves surrounded, ambushed
and attacked by 42 human Xenomorph hybrids, 6 Lion Xenomorph hybrids,
3 Tiger Xenomorph hybrids, 2 Dog Xenomorph hybrids and most dangerous
of all a Rhino Xenomorph hybrid. The surviving twenty two marines and
Ripley split up as they escape the hull. Ripley, by herself discovers
a protected room with 4 awoken civilians and 2 crew members. They
avoid the aliens as they make their way through the steam filled
narrow corridors till they reunite with Hayward, Jones and six other
Marines.

They discover that the control room is six floors up and has
controls which can eject the surviving still sleeping civilians out
of the ship but one of the crew reveals that the vessel has a self
destruct button. The 15 men and women including Ripley make their way
through the ship and battle with the aliens. At one point, while
checking the passenger list, it is revealed that one of the survivors
a man named Roth is not on the list.

Roth whom is with Ripley and the other 13 reveals that he is the
cause of the alien epidemic.

He reveals that after the destruction of USM Auriga two escape pods
with crew successfully escaped along with Ripley's vessel. On board
one of the Crews escape pods was an alien being and it killed the
crew and over time morphed their bodies into strange eggs which then
released a deadly parasite. Roth was one of the crew who found the
pod and was ordered by the Tyrell corporation to destroy the eggs to
avoid any more alien outbreaks but he kept one safe and hidden and
when the ARC 2 was ready to depart he thought it only right to save
the species by planting the egg on board.

During the story their numbers decline to 12, then 10, then 5 and
finally 3; Ripley, Jones and a woman named Shona. The life cycle of
the Alien is also explained. The queen alien is explained; after a
female host gives birth to the alien, over time it will grow and it
will take it's female hosts ability to reproduce.

Ripley activates both the Self destruct and the ejection of the
still sleeping civilians.

After reaching a silo which leads out of the ship, the three of them
are chased by the aliens.

Ripley decides to stay behind and makes Jones promise her that the
new Earth won't become as bad as the old one and he agrees. She then
stays behind as the others escape. She has a showdown with a human
hybrid alien and curses, 'I've been waiting for this moment for two
hundred and sixty three years' before the ship detonates killing both
Ripley and the Xenomorph race forever.
Later as Jones and Shona make it to shore they look back at the
sinking destroyed ship and then spot hundreds of Cryogenic Capsules
rising out of the water and the confused and dazed civilians
awakening from their long sleep.

Years later children form a circle around an older Jones who
finishes the story by saying, 'And that is the last part of the story
of Ellen Ripley who saved mankind'

Death of Ripley in Alien 1?

Flavio — Tue, 02 Apr 2013 19:48:33 -0400

An interesting article with a couple of shocking revelations:

http://www.blastr.com/2013-4-2/little-known-sci-fi-fact-ripley-was-supposed-die-end-alien

It seems that Ridley wanted to kill Ripley in the end of Alien 1. The xeno would bite off her head (ouch!) and then send a radio message imitating her voice.

I like it but I'm glad they didn't do it.

Your favorite scenes?

Brandon_XenoPredFan — Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:32:18 -0400

Hi again, yes it is Me, sorry for the hiatus (long story), I apologize again for not posting more than I did previously.

That being said, I wanted to see what is everybody's favorites scenes in Prometheus, Alien 1 - Resurrection and if you want to include the AVP movies. I will pick one in each.

Prometheus: The Engineer destroys David and Weyland.

Alien: During the discovery of the ship and the Space Jockey/Engineer

Aliens: The first appearance of the Alien Queen! (It was so remarkable seeing her for the first moment when I was a little guy)

Alien 3: The very beginning where you see the planet and hearing Goldenthal's score!

Alien Resurrection: Ripley's fight with the guys.

AVP 1: When the Alien Queen bursts out of the ice! (I felt the Queen Alien type was give justice from the poor use of her in AR)

APR: R: A toss up at the beginning when you see the Predator's ship coming around the planet and when the National Guard appears during the sirens, that was awesome!

Alien: Resurrection - Alternate Ending deleted scene

Vodi — Sun, 24 Mar 2013 13:25:49 -0400

[not sure if this has been posted before]

I quite like this alternate ending deleted scene

Watch it to the end for the tower money shot:

Which character in alien are you most like?

pro_metheus_fan — Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:25:08 -0400

Basically the thread title sums it all up, which character do you relate to the most? are you laid back like dallas, inquistive like kane, prone to hysteria like lambert, as cool headed as ripley, as devious as ash. Or are you like parker and brett you don't like authority and feel underpaid and under appreciated.

It's up to you who you go for, and you can give what ever reason you want.

Bloody-Disgusting: Alien3 Revisited

secretsquirrely — Mon, 14 May 2012 16:47:21 -0400

Interesting article from Bloody-disgusting. It discusses why Alien3 is actually pretty enjoyable (and I agree), and it touches on the topic we have here about why it actually makes sense to kill off Newt and Hicks.

http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3142698/alien-3-revisited-why-its-not-so-bad-and-why-killing-newt-and-hicks-is-a-good-thing/

Regarding Hicks: When you first saw Aliens

Brian_O_Blivion — Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:11:32 -0500

Did you think he was a bit creepy or sinister? I know he's since become hero stuff and everything, but I can remember seeing the film for the first time when I was 12 or something and remembering the scene when they are in the APC and him glaring at Ripley with rape eyes. She suddenly becomes uncomfortable at his attentions.

Also, the line he gives to Ripley - "When it comes to that, I'll do us both" was pretty deranged.

EGG on the Sulaco

Terraformer — Tue, 18 Dec 2012 20:09:59 -0500

How in God's (Engineer's) green earth did it get on board the Sulaco?

Bishop couldn't have planted it because as soon as he left the dropship he was chopped in two. The alien Queen was in the dropship and never went wondering around the Sulaco, it was hunting for Nute.

Seriously. Give me a solid explanation. Was there two eggs? because one impregnated ripley and then the cattle/dog got raped. was it some super facehugger?

or was it just simply an illogical milking cash grab invented by FOX just to keep the franchise going without logic or explanation?

AvP: Evolution - Android & iPhone game

Vodi — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:29:43 -0500

AvP: Evolution Teaser Trailer

Alien Resurrection, and a kiss to Alien 3

DancingDavid — Tue, 05 Jun 2012 17:29:04 -0400

So.

I hate that Newt and Hicks died; pure and simple. I get it, and I used to really like it when the film came out and I was still a teen, but now I feel like we were slighted, and that much of what we waited and lived for in Aliens was cut out from under us without permission, as stupid as that may sound.

However, I LOVE Alien3. I don't get why people don't. It's weird, sure. It's unique, and it had a million production issues (the original idea, a monk planet made mostly of wood?! awesome...) but I don't think the end result--be it alternate or original cut--is anything short of really good fun. Dark, with a great end to it all as well. We see Ripley lose in the end, but somehow win as well because she confronts what is happening, accepts it and sacrifices herself for her race--brilliant.

Then, we have the follow up; the pure rubbish piece of garbage I only rarely watch...not even the director's cut helps in the slightest. It's too funny, too "fresh", with no threatening moments, unncessary additions in Call and the worst thing ever--see hybrid alien. I wish, I WISH that it could be completely removed from the story, replaced instead with a new direction of story...no Ripley, no over-abundance of humor (pulling out a piece of one's brain after being attacked by an alien? seriously?! Wow, I really am mad about this movie still.)

AvP is better than A:Res in my opinion, and it's not a very good movie. AvP2 is just a tad worse than A:Res.

Dunno. Venting? Maybe. Someone help me not hate this movie please.

What would avp3 be about?

rubber_chicken — Fri, 13 Jul 2012 00:58:45 -0400

at the end of avpr, they left it open for there to be another in the saga, i reckon there could be a predator exiled for some reason, that goes crazy, filling a ship with alien eggs and lands it on earth, the predator gathers people to be the hosts, and then the predator clangoes to earth for the thrill of the hunt, the exile attacks his old clan... blah blah blah, massive explosions.... blah blah blah... massive drama as an ally has an egg insidehim... blah blah blah... the humans use the predators weapons (from avpr) to fight back... blah blah blah, it could actually be better than avpr, please tell me what avp3 should be about

Alien inspired t-shirt design

extremefantasy — Thu, 07 Feb 2013 03:51:56 -0500

What do you guys think of my t-shirt design?

http://www.redbubble.com/people/extreme-fantasy/works/8884502-alien-eating-pizza

anybody else got any designs to post?

Colonial Marines 35 dollars on steam with coupon.

Jonesycatpants — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 01:17:27 -0500

http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/au/en/pc/games/shooter/aliens-colonial-marines/

GMG30-ALIEN-SDEAL

Use that coupon on check-out im probably gonna pick this up for pc